Problem Solved: The IISE Podcast

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Elizabeth: Here's the problem.

Many incoming college students have
no idea what industrial and systems

engineering actually is, or the
difference it can make in the world.

Ana Muriel: I always ask, do you know
what industrial engineering engineers do?

And I get maybe one, two.

Hands up.

Elizabeth: This episode of Problem Solved
shines a light on a creative solution.

The ISE Impact Short Video Contest that
invites students and professionals to

explain ISE's value in about one minute.

We'll talk to Dr. Ana Muriel of UMass
Amherst, who helped spearhead the

competition and hear from two of this
year's winners, one who used animation to

tackle the global issue of food security
and another who applied ISE methods to

improve her performance in TaeKwonDo.

So join us and maybe expand your
thinking about what industrial

and systems engineering can do

today.

I'm excited to welcome Dr. Ana Muriel.

Associate professor and associate
department head of Mechanical

industrial Engineering at the
University of Massachusetts Amherst.

She played a pivotal role in launching
the ISE Impact Short Video Contest.

This initiative showcases the creativity
and impact of industrial and systems

engineering in a way that inspires
the next generation of engineers.

Dr. Muriel, welcome to Problem
Solved, and thank you for joining us.

Ana Muriel: Thank you Elizabeth.

it is a pleasure to be here with
you today, trying to share our

work on the video contest and
hopefully expanding its reach.

Elizabeth: So to start with, could
you share a little bit more about

your background and your path to
becoming a leader in the ISE field?

Ana Muriel: first thing I would like
to share with you is how I stumbled

upon Industrial systems engineering.

'cause that sets the stage
for why we need this contest.

I'm originally from Spain, so I
grew up and did my bachelor's there.

In Spain, Industrial engineering
means something very different.

if you translate it literally ingeneria
industrial means something very different.

It means general engineering, where
then you can specialize in mechanical,

electrical, or what would be our
Industrial engineering here in the

U.S. which would be Organizacion,
so it's like business organization.

so very, different.

Right?

So I was not attracted to our Spanish
meaning of industrial engineering.

And I loved math.

I wanted to, basically do
something impactful, but with math.

So I joined, mathematics and statistics,
and that's what my bachelor's is on.

Now, let me tell you how I
very serendipitously ended

up in industrial engineering.

I got a scholarship to, it was an
exchange program within the University

of Seville where I did my bachelor's
and the, and Northwestern University.

I didn't know what department to apply
for, so this was at the graduate level.

And statistics sounded like the most
aligned with what I had done because I

had the mathematics with a specialization
in operations research and statistics.

Obviously industrial engineering
didn't ring a bell to me.

but it turns out the person who was in
charge of admissions that year and read

my application was in both the industrial
engineering and statistics departments.

So, lo and behold, this is Professor
Tamhane at Northwestern, read my

application and just figured out that
I was a much better fit based on what

I said for industrial engineering
without ever discussing it with me.

I was admitted to the industrial
engineering program and I ended up there,

and that totally changed, my career path.

I am, indebted to him for getting
me into this discipline that I love.

Elizabeth: Wow.

Ana Muriel: I came for only nine
months, with this exchange program,

and that was, about 30 years ago.

Elizabeth: So you're also an
active member in CIEADH, which

is the Council of Industrial
Engineering Academic Department.

Heads.

For those who may not be familiar,
what is CIEADH and their mission

and role within the ISE community?

Ana Muriel: so CIEADH is composed
by, industrial and systems

engineering, department heads who
are trying to exchange their views

and perspectives on where the field
is going, what we need to do to.

Be competitive to help each other.

So there's a, it's competition, right?

We're all competing for the best and
brightest students, but we know that

we are better collaborating with each
other and making the pie bigger and

everything better for each other.

We also collaborate very closely with, the
Institute for Industrial Systems Engineers

in launching the conferences, right?

There's a good partnership,
between the, two.

But basically our mission is to
make the most of this profession

and help each other in, elevating
industrial and systems engineering.

Elizabeth: Yeah.

So the ISE Impact Short Video Contest
was an idea that came out of CIEADH.

Could you tell us a little bit
about the inspiration behind the

contest and why was it created?

Ana Muriel: so just as my path into
industrial systems engineering shows,

many people don't know what industrial
systems engineering is or what, we do.

The title, the name doesn't really
ring a bell for most people.

I run the, open house, the
visitation days for prospective

students and their families.

And because we are a mechanical and
industrial engineering department,

I get a room full, an auditorium,
full of students and parents.

The vast majority of them are
interested in mechanical engineering.

I always ask.

Do you know what industrial
engineering engineers do?

And I get maybe one, two hands up.

and this is not only at
UMass, once I started.

Discussing with the other, department
heads in industrial and systems

engineering at CIEADH, it turned out that
it's, a widely spread, misconception.

And, every time, right, we're
discussing how do we change this?

How can we get industrial and systems
engineering to the mainstream?

How can it be like mechanical
engineering, right?

Everybody knows, so mechanical
engineers do, 'cause it's more tangible.

They have an automobile right,
to show here it is what, we do.

so we've been, discussing ideas and
at some point we said, okay, we need

to get a group of us that are very
invested in this, in ma in making it

work, to get together and figure out.

What should be our path forward?

so I have a great group of colleagues
such as our current president in

CIEADH, Pratik Parikh the University of
Louisville, Ratna Babu Chinnam at Wayne

State, Kevin Taaffe at Clemson University.

So all, I mean, these are the chairs
of the CIEADH, visibility task force.

But all of us are-

And then we have many others
that I would like to, thank, but.

I don't want to extend it too long.

Basically, we've been figuring out
what would be the most promising ideas.

We actually run a survey, with
students as mostly freshmen and all

throughout college to see where the
gaps are, how much do they know?

About industrial systems engineering,
and what would be ways in, which

we could improve, this knowledge?

So based on our survey, the short videos,
popped up as one of the most promising.

we want to meet prospective
students, where they are, right?

They're in social media, they're looking
at TikTok, they're looking at YouTube.

They need very fast paced consumption.

Something that engages them
from the very first clip, right?

That they, have to look at it and say,
oh yeah, I'm gonna continue watching.

Right.

It's not just swipe and
go to the next thing.

Elizabeth: Yeah.

No, I think that's really smart.

I'm just curious, when you have these
new student orientations and you ask

a prospective student, what is ISE?

And they don't know, what
is your answer to them?

How do you explain ISE and like one or two
sentences to somebody who doesn't know?

Ana Muriel: My favorite
example is Amazon, right?

How much industrial and systems
engineering there is behind Amazon.

I always tell them.

You have this package
delivered in just a day or two.

Aren't you amazed by it?

How can they do that
cost effectively, right?

And make a profit out of it?

The logistics that go behind it,
they need to have enough inventory.

They have to have it positioned.

They have to have the trucks, they have
to have the workers, the logistics.

Right?

Everything has to come into place at
the same time in this beautiful system.

Elizabeth: And maybe some students
think of that as just a business degree.

So do you ever have people respond well?

Isn't that just majoring in business?

Ana Muriel: that's a very good question.

I will talk about how there
are lots of algorithms.

Problem solving that goes, behind it.

So that's where the
engineering comes at the end.

Engineers are problem solvers.

Elizabeth: Yeah.

this podcast is called Problem
Solved because that's what ISEs do

is they solve all those problems.

Ana Muriel: Yeah.

And then I tell them how, we bring
people technology systems altogether to.

They were a better place, right,

?
Elizabeth: Yes, absolutely.

So back to the, the contest.

How do you think this contest connects
with and inspires future ISE students?

I know you talked about meeting them where
they are and in the place where they are.

do you see that it really has
been effective and inspiring

people's paths forward?

Ana Muriel: well that is still
out to see the jury is out there.

as part of the competition, we have
some young students that are part of

the judging process and they, very much
like the videos and connected with them.

But I must say that, the way we
organize everything is very purposeful.

Like we have the videos organized by
both industry with the objective to show

the wide variety of industries that.

Industrial and systems
engineers can contribute to.

I think that's very important, right?

Because to say industrial engineering
and they, think they're gonna be

in a manufacturing factory, right?

And that's it.

And then you show that it's
healthcare, it's aerospace,

it's finance and insurance.

It's energy.

basically any organization is driven
by processes and processes are made

better by industrial systems engineers.

And then we show.

Also how there are different
passions can be fulfilled within

industrial systems engineer.

you want to help people.

Well through healthcare, we have one
of the videos talks about helping a,

animal shelter and the processes there.

You can use industrial and
systems engineering for any

nonprofit, for any organization.

So if helping people is what you
really want to achieve, there

is, there are many ways in which
industrial and systems engineers

can be part of the solution there.

Elizabeth: Right.

So from your perspective, what
elements make a great short video?

What makes a video
really stand out to you?

Ana Muriel: Okay, so first, the first
few seconds are key because we are

talking about very young, individuals,
right, that are used to fast pace.

Hey, I don't like it.

I swipe and go to the next one.

It has to be relatable.

We want story that is personal, that
can connect, somewhat fast paced.

Initially, we were okay with having
more broader videos that just talk

about industrial engineering in general.

At this point, we have enough of those.

So the videos that we're looking for
are much more, Pointed towards just

a particular industry or a particular
type of problem solved, right?

As, if you like to put it, it should
be a personal experience that the

person who is narrating and the
student can really kind of engage with.

Elizabeth: We take a look at two
of these winning videos right now.

Hannah Brooks' problem?

She needs money for school, so she
puts her very unique set of skills

together to find and enter an industrial
systems engineering video contest.

Her other problem, she's not an
ISE student, so how did she do it?

Hannah Brooks, welcome to Problem Solved.

I would love it if you could
just take a minute and introduce

yourself to our listeners.

Hannah Brooks: All right.

Hi, my name is Hannah Brooks.

I am a nursing student.

I'm actually transferring
between a few schools right now.

I've been at Liberty University online,
Community College, and I'm currently,

transferring to James Madison University

Elizabeth: Nursing.

That's amazing.

Hannah Brooks: It really is.

I'm so excited.

It's always been my dream to be a
postpartum nurse and I am just so excited

to be just getting closer to that dream.

Elizabeth: So I'm just curious, since
you're not an engineering student, how

did you come to find yourself being
one of the contestants in this contest?

Hannah Brooks: I actually came across
it through surprisingly enough research.

So, one thing I've always
been taught, growing up is

always use your skills wisely.

Even if you don't think they
could be used in any way, you

know, it's never wrong to try.

And in my case, one of the skills
that I've been able to develop over

the years is stop motion animation.

And I was just going through literally the
internet trying to figure out, you know.

What are some ways I can use my
skills to earn money for college?

and I came across ISE.

I remember looking at it and
being like, oh my gosh, this

sounds like really interesting.

I was looking at some of, like their
questions, what they were looking for.

They said that they placed specific,
attention to certain topics, one

of them being food security, which,
as someone who loves cooking for

people, that's just always been
something that's been on my heart.

And so I just got really excited
about it and I thought, you

know, I might as well just try.

Elizabeth: Yeah.

Well, it's a very impressive
video for a number of reasons, but

what stands out to me is the fact
that you are not an ISE student.

So how did you go about studying
the ISE concepts to incorporate

into your video about food security?

I mean, it's kind of like you had
to have a crash course in ISE.

Hannah Brooks: It really
was a crash course.

I actually spent, I'm gonna say about
that first week, just researching ISE,

you know, what does that even mean?

what are the basic principles behind
industrial systems engineering?

And more specifically, how is it applied
in like ways to address food security?

I was also looking at technology.

'cause it, had two categories.

so I had technology and food security
and I was figuring out, well,

how do those two topics coincide?

my dad is an operations research
analyst, so I've just always prioritized

research before I do anything else.

Elizabeth: Yeah, very smart.

It sounds like you learned a lot.

How do you think the general
public relates to this?

I mean, what do you think just
regular people think about food

security as it relates to ISE.

Hannah Brooks: I don't think the general
public knows just how much ISE has been

used to address issues like food security.

Like when I first started, I must
admit, when I thought of engineering

and food security, all I could think
of was food processing factories.

And as someone who loves to watch how
it's made, it's like the conditions

aren't exactly the greatest.

And so I kind of saw it
in a very negative light.

But as I continued researching to
figure out all the many different

ways they were developing machines
that weren't just clean, they

were, you know, using resources.

Very efficiently.

They were trying to minimize
their carbon footprint and I was

like, this is really interesting.

This is impressive.

And it just made me really appreciative
of industrial and systems engineering.

Even I'm, even though I'm not going
into that particular field, it just

generated so much more respect for
industrial and systems engineering.

Elizabeth: Right.

So your video is animated and I
wanted to ask you, how on earth

did you learn how to do that?

Hannah Brooks: well, I'm
actually self-taught.

I do love something I've noticed
I do a lot is when I watch a film,

or just a production from someone
else, I am actually looking at it

from the perspective of a director.

Like, oh my gosh, that
camera angle is so good.

I wonder if I could do
something like that.

And.

I've always found
documentaries interesting.

So I've like watched documentaries
of like Walt Disney and I've tried

to replicate that in my own work.

Just I have all this time on my
hands during summer sometimes and

I'm like, okay, well you know what?

Maybe I can experiment with
it and see how far I can go.

for ISE actually tried a lot of
new techniques because I really

wanted to bring the idea across.

I really wanted to shed a really positive
light on industrial systems engineering.

I was using like about six
to 12 frames per second.

That's about half of
what Walt Disney does.

He does.

He used to do like 24, I think.

But you know, there were different angles.

I was trying to do very vivid colors
'cause I know that just, it evokes a very

positive attitude and that was exactly
how I felt when I was researching.

it did take a very long time
though, like, I'm gonna say

70 some hours here and there.

Wow.

a lot of the clips such as,
you know, I think at one point

there was an assembly line.

I was having to use rulers to
make sure that every single item

as they were moving maintained a
consistent size, shape, length.

and that took a lot of time.

Like I said, this is something that
Walt Disney used to use in his,

his animated movies, basically.

mine is slightly different.

I used a draw on a erase method
instead of using multiple sheets

of paper to, conserve my resources.

Oh, that's really interesting.

What is one thing you could live without?

Maybe some of you would say family or
a hobby you enjoy, or even a phone,

but what if we considered something?

We literally couldn't live without food.

While food is widely available in many
countries, over 820 million people

worldwide still suffer from hunger.

Fortunately, industrial systems
engineering is currently being

applied in the food industry.

Elizabeth: So you took a lot of your
skills and your strengths and your

talents and your interests and your
passions, and you put them all together

in this one really impressive video.

So you must feel really good.

Hannah Brooks: I mean, all can I
say is that it's just been a huge

privilege to be able to get so far.

I mean, like I said, I have
zero experience in ISE.

I honestly thought that like the
directors would just laugh at my video

and be like, oh, she knows nothing.

This is ridiculous.

I was just trying to see
like, is my research enough?

Is my illustrations enough?

Like, I don't know.

Yeah,

Elizabeth: well, the people
judging the videos are ISEs.

They're not animators.

So when they see this other
really rare skill, I think

it's gonna stand out to them.

So I think that was a really
smart way to approach it.

Hannah Brooks: I think so too.

and I was super surprised
when I got the email.

I will say though, I think, I
think it was Mrs. Muriel, she

emailed me back and she did give
me a lot of changes I had to make.

So there was like a lot of a
humbling moment there of like, okay,

obviously I do not know everything.

And she was actually the
one who encouraged me to.

Research Six Sigma and value stream
mapping and include that in there too.

As well as, the importance of ISE
collaborating with a lot of different

people from different fields in
order to accomplish their goals.

We had a few Zoom meetings together
and I don't know, she was just

one of those personalities.

It was just very refreshing and just.

With her help, I was able to
develop a, I think, a more accurate

view of ISE and I was able to,
contribute to my video in that way.

And I think it was a
lot better in the end.

Elizabeth: Yeah, because there's a lot
of other students listening that are

looking for ways to, you know, either
get scholarships or find contests where

they can get school money or something.

So that's, do you have any other advice
for them if they're out there scrolling,

like you were scrolling for contests?

To

Hannah Brooks: enter?

Well, I would say just definitely take
advantage of every skill that you have,

whether it be drawing, poetry, gardening.

I mean, the possibilities are endless.

It is surprising to see how
many competitions are actually

available on the internet.

Right.

Elizabeth: Well, very smart
to take advantage of that.

So can you tell us what's next for you?

Hannah Brooks: Well, I'm
currently in the process, like

I said, for my nursing degree.

I'm hoping that once I
get into JMU I can finish.

I think I have two and a half years
left after that it's, I'm gonna be going

straight into a hospital as opposed
for nurse Lord willing is just been a

lifelong passion of just serving people,
particularly mothers and children.

So honestly, if I'm put in any
nursing position where I'm doing that.

I'm gonna be happy.

Elizabeth: That's great.

That's really amazing.

Do you think any of the concepts that
you've learned about ISE might you

might carry with you into the future?

That's a good question.

Hannah Brooks: I know that when I was
researching ISE, there was a huge emphasis

on research and, experimentation, both of
which I do try to apply in my daily life.

one other thing I would say is
I will definitely carry on this

respect for ISE in the future.

As well as encourage a lot of
my friends to pursue careers in

ISE 'cause I did notice that.

It is definitely a very growing field.

Elizabeth: Hannah, congratulations
again and thanks for talking with us.

Hannah Brooks: Oh, it's
been no problem at all.

It has been my privilege to
be able to talk with you guys.

Elizabeth: Next we talk to Anwaar.

Anwaar's problem?

Despite her disciplined training
in TaeKwonDo, she was not achieving

the results She wanted her solution,
turned her training into a strategic

systems-based challenge using motion
tracking, data analysis and competitor

monitoring, and the results are powerful.

Hi Anwaar, thanks for being
with us on Problem Solved today.

Anwaar Zyoud: Hi, first, I'd like to thank
you so much for having me in this podcast.

It's truly an honor to be here.

so my name is Anwaar, as you said, and
I'm an industrial engineer, from Jordan.

Jordan.

Awesome.

I'm currently working at the office
of his Majesty King, Abdullah ii.

King of Jordan.

Yeah.

And I've been an active member of, a
doube ISE for several years and had the

privilege of, serving as the secretary of
Chapter 792 at the University of Jordan.

So being part of this podcast
is really special to me.

Elizabeth: That's great.

That's amazing.

So where did you hear about the contest
and what made you decide you wanted to

enter and how did you come up with such
a unique and fascinating topic to do it?

Can you just talk a little bit about that?

Anwaar Zyoud: Yeah, so last year I saw
a friend of mine shading on LinkedIn.

The tea won the first.

Place, in this contest.

So I asked, about it
and, I liked the idea.

So I was waiting for this year's,
competition and I tried to make

something like, that seemed authentic
to me, something that, combined

both, The things that I'm more
passionate about, like TaeKwonDo

and ISE, which were both, my dream.

Elizabeth: So your video starts with
you saying, something was missing.

So my question is, what made you
realize that what was missing

wasn't more training, but it
was a new way of thinking?

Anwaar Zyoud: Well.

Because I'm a very hard worker
and I really, took TaeKwonDo

into another level and then, I
didn't get what I want at first.

So after, I graduated from
school and started, in the

university with the industrial
engineering, I felt things changed.

I started, like implementing
what I'm learning and the

concept of engineering into my.

practice.

And then I started like gaining
and like, having the achievements

that I, was willing for.

So I felt that this was the missing part.

Yeah, it's

Elizabeth: amazing.

the results are really like stunning.

You said, adjusting your kick angle
by just five degrees made such a huge

difference in balance and recovery.

So how did it feel to see data
drive a physical result like that?

Did it surprise you?

I mean,

Anwaar Zyoud: yes.

Yeah, it, really did.

When I first started TaeKwonDo, it
was all about strength and speed.

I trained hard, fought harder,
but something was missing.

Then I discovered industrial and systems
engineering and everything changed.

Elizabeth: So tell us about how you
tackle this issue with ISE in mind.

Anwaar Zyoud: I began by applying the ISE
principles to my athletic performance.

I recorded my sparring sessions
and used, motion, analysis to break

down each move, studying my posture,
reaction, time and footprint frame

by frame to find inefficiencies.

I also tracked performance data,
heart rate, timing, fatigue, and

used spreadsheets to chart patterns
and adjust my training accordingly.

If I noticed my reaction time
dropped after four rounds, I built

sessions that mimicked, That stress.

I'm trained to stay sharp longer, so
I adopted continuous improvement, or

let me say kaizen, where you don't
wait for something to go wrong, but you

constantly test and reflect and improve.

So instead of spending equal
time on everything, I allocated

time based on what had.

The biggest impact on my performance.

That way I was trading
smarter, not just harder.

Right.

Just like in engineering.

Elizabeth: So you're describing a really
complex process, but the video you made is

only 60 seconds, A little over 60 seconds.

So when you're putting this video
together, did you find that difficult

to condense all of that complexity
into such a short amount of time?

Anwaar Zyoud: Yes, because at first
when I prepared the original video, it

was much longer, like really longer.

But then I had to remove clips.

I had to remove things that I mentioned.

and.

This is the result that
I ended up with you.

You had

Elizabeth: to do a lot of editing, huh?

Yeah, a lot.

So what would you say to,
another student out there?

maybe another athlete who thinks that
engineering is all maybe circuits

and code and it's not something
that could help them win a match.

Do you have any words of wisdom?

Anwaar Zyoud: Yeah, I hope my journey
inspires others to look beyond traditional

boundaries and explore how their skills
can create impact in unexpected places.

So if there is one thing I've learned,
it's that passion, consistency

and smart strategy can take you
further than you've ever imagined.

Elizabeth: Great.

That's awesome.

Anwaar Zyoud: It truly made me like.

Feel proud after, especially after,
the announcement of, that I won.

It felt like I really have this
thing that's gonna like, continue.

Like for now I stop TaeKwonDo.

But, I'm sure that one day I'll
be able to deliver for the whole

world that, industrial engineering
can be combined with anything.

Even if it's unexpected or like out of
the box, but combining it with industrial

engineering will be very impactful and
will be very effective and will give

the results that no one is expecting.

Elizabeth: Yeah.

So what's

next for you

personally?

Anwaar Zyoud: So, for now I
took a break from TaeKwonDo in

order to focus on my career.

Elizabeth: Okay.

what are some of your career goals?

Anwaar Zyoud: I want to open, my
own like, business in the future.

Like to have my own, maybe TaeKwonDo,
place and maybe on another, on

the opposite I'll be managing it
using industrial engineering tools

to, to make it more productive.

Elizabeth: Anwaar, your creative use
of industrial and systems engineering

in a personal and athletic context
is not only inspiring, but it's a

perfect example of how this field can
make an impact in unexpected places.

So thank you for being with us today
and best of luck in everything to come.

Anwaar Zyoud: Thank you
so much for having me.

It's been a real pleasure to
share my story on Problem Solved.

Elizabeth: So to wrap up, Dr. Muriel,
what advice would you give to students,

whether they're pursuing ISE or exploring
another field to help them make the

most of their education and early career

Ana Muriel: Explore.

Keep an open mind, right?

You may have had a thought from day
one from the time you were little

that you absolutely wanted to be
tinkering with cars and designing cars.

But there are many ways in which
you can contribute to that design

to being part of that industry.

So just keep an open mind and explore.

There are many paths.

That you may not be aware of yet.

so keep learning.

industrial and systems engineering is
one good example that most kids don't,

would never have thought about because
the name doesn't really ring a bell.

But then once you explore what
we do, and hopefully these videos

help you do so, then perhaps.

it is for you.

Elizabeth: So finally, what can you
tell us about the next cycle of the

contest and how can students participate?

Ana Muriel: So for the next cycle now,
because we have a good, set of videos

already, one, we are gonna now have only
one competition a year rather than two.

So we are gonna have it open.

we are gonna open it now.

Close it January 15th so that
you, there is plenty of time.

Now, I must say that it's not
only students that contribute.

We would welcome submissions from
any practitioner, faculty members.

What we want is good stories.

That the young individuals can relate to.

So there is absolutely no
eligibility restrictions on that end.

We just want good stories that are
that, that are gonna be relatable.

We don't have anything
in finance or insurance.

At this point, we don't have anything
in, space exploration, in entertainment.

we don't have anything yet,
which I know there is a lot of,

industrial and systems engineering.

In entertainment.

You go to Disney World, right?

And there is so much that has been
done there to improve your experience

as you go through the park, right?

so we want, those stories are not
there yet, and I think they would

be, they are, they're needed.

Alright,

Elizabeth: well, the ISE
Impact short Video contest.

It's such a creative way to showcase
the real world value of this profession,

and I know that our listeners will
be inspired to see and maybe even

create these stories for themselves.

So Dr. Muriel, thank you so much for
sharing your insights and passion for both

industrial and systems engineering and for
the next generation of students we wish

you and the contest continued success.

Ana Muriel: Thank you, Elizabeth.

I look forward to the submissions.

Elizabeth: Links to these two and
other great video entries are in

the show notes along with details
to the next round of the contest.

A special thanks to all of our guests.

Join us next time for new Problem Solved,
and until then, remember to explore

and keep learning with an open mind.

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